The CIRS Group Podcast

Candid conversations about healing, community, and CIRS recovery — hosted by Barbara and Jacie.

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25x is A LOT 🤯

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about ALS & environmental exposure! Are you at risk?

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25x is A LOT 🤯

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about ALS & ...

It's the combo one-two-six? punch that'll get you

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about ALS & ...

Are you living in toxin soup?

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about ALS & ...

ALS (Lou Gehrig’s Disease) and Environmental Toxins: Cyanobacteria, BMAA, and Possible CIRS Links

In this CIRS Group podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara discuss ALS ...

In this CIRS Group podcast episode, Jacie and Barbara discuss ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig’s disease, describing it as a rare, progressive, fatal motor neuron disease ...that leads to muscle weakness, speech and swallowing difficulties, and eventually respiratory failure. They explain that most cases are considered sporadic, prompting research into environmental “multi-hit” contributors alongside genetic susceptibility. The conversation focuses on evidence connecting cyanobacteria and the neurotoxin BMAA to ALS, including the Guam ALS/Parkinsonism-dementia complex, ALS clustering around Lake Mascoma in New Hampshire, broader regional clusters in New England, and studies linking poor lake quality and cyanobacterial markers to higher ALS risk, with possible airborne exposure. They also explore overlaps with CIRS/mold illness mechanisms, mention home testing options for cyanobacteria, and review preliminary research on L-serine as a potential way to slow functional decline.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Welcome and ALS Overview
00:39 Why ALS Matters Here
03:14 CIRS Connection and Disclaimers
05:47 What ALS Does to the Body
06:53 Sporadic ALS and Multi Hit Theory
08:50 Guam Clues and BMAA Toxin
10:01 New England Lake Hotspots
12:10 Airborne Exposure and Protein Folding
14:56 Where CIRS Fits In
17:48 Practical Steps and Home Testing
20:13 L Serine Research and Dosing
22:11 CIRS Next Steps and Wrap Up

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.Show More

She's an overachiever okay?

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about spike protein, ...

He spiky boi 🦔

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about spike protein, ...

The Power of Pineapple! 🍍🍍🍍

This week on the podcast, Barbara and Jacie chat about spike protein, ...

COVID, Spike Protein, Long COVID & CIRS: Testing options, symptom overlap, and how to feel better!

Barbara and Jacie discuss COVID, spike protein, long COVID, and ...

Barbara and Jacie discuss COVID, spike protein, long COVID, and possible connections to CIRS. DISCLAIMER: This is educational and not medical advice. Always consult your own medical professional before doing ...any of the protocols discussed here.

They explain spike protein’s role in viral cell entry via ACE2 receptors, note it can be produced during infection and temporarily after certain vaccinations, and share Jacie’s experience of worsening health during COVID times that improved after a spike protein protocol. They describe theories for persistent symptoms (viral reservoirs, ongoing replication), symptom overlap with CIRS (inflammation, clotting, neuro issues), and available testing—especially LabCorp spike antibody testing, plus a Texas lab option to measure spike protein directly. They reference Shoemaker’s 2021 genomic study on persistent symptoms and discuss i-Recover/Independent Medical Alliance approaches such as intermittent fasting, nattokinase, bromelain, quercetin, ivermectin, LDN, melatonin, NAC, and graded exercise, as well as any potential adverse effects. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro and disclaimer
01:11 Jacie's personal spike protocol story
02:51 What spike protein does
03:43 Vaccines and shedding debate
06:24 Why spike protein persists in the body
07:42 How to test for spike antibodies
10:55 How spike protein affects the body
14:38 CIRS Research liked to Long COVID
17:44 Treatment side quests
18:31 i-Recover protocol basics
21:25 Benefits of intermittent fasting (14 hours)
22:25 Nattokinase: benefits and risks
26:05 Bromelain: benefits and risks
27:23 Quercetin: for inflammation
30:16 Ivermectin: benefits and risks
33:45 Other IMA / i-Recover suggestions
37:28 Slowly graded exercise
38:11 Should you test for spike protein?
41:16 Outro

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

LINKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:
Any Lab Now Spike Protein test (or search their site to find one in your area): https://www.anylabtestnow.com/henderson-89074/tests/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-generated-antibody-test/
LabCorp COVID-19 antibody test: https://www.ondemand.labcorp.com/lab-tests/covid-19-antibody-test
Dr. Shoemaker's published research on COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/MRA_FINAL_6_14_21_Treatable_metabolic_and_inflammatory_abnormalities_in_Pos.pdf
Our interview about LPS (endotoxins) in the gut: https://youtu.be/7H6CKEhIMSU?si=EFJfBoUlSn4Pzv0u
i-Recover Protocol: https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-recover-long-covid-treatment/

Research cited during this episode:
Spike Protein and Bacterial Endotoxin Interactions: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7799037/
Nattokinase and Spike Protein Degradation: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9458005/
Bromelain and SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7811777/
Quercetin and Spike-Mediated Cell Fusion: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10811921/
2026 Study: Persistent SARS-CoV-2 Antigens and Long COVID: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42323109/
IMA/FLCCC I-RECOVER Treatment Protocol: https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-recover-long-covid-treatment/

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.Show More

How did we evolve so poorly lol

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Some things are great! But only when you do them in the right stage!

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No gimmicks! What to do when the protocol feels impossible 💛

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March 9, 2025

Repair Your Brain with Plasmalogens – Dr. Dayan Goodenowe

Today we have a special guest! Dr. Dayan Goodenowe is a researcher that has unlocked the power of plasmalogens and thankfully, this is something that can be a real game changer for people struggling with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome.

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